There are some good deals out there on used optics on some of the competition/accuracy forums. I've picked up both NF and Vortex scopes for as much as 1/3 to 1/2 off retail. I have found that many upgrade their optics over time and sell what they have. You just need to be patient and once you decide what you want then start looking. I dabble a bit in F Class style shooting and regularly shoot my 6.5 Creed in mid-range using a NF Benchrest scope that I picked up for under $900. I really like it.