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Reloading / Re: 6.5 Stabal test
Last post by HufD63 -
Quote from: mnbogboy on
Here's my take 47.3 & 47.4 combined have 5 out of 6 with about 1/4" of verticle at 600 yards. Assuming the 9-12 mph in the notes meant crosswind.  Not knowing if the 6th shot (high one in 47.3) was the slowest or fastest or in between.  Pull out the faster or the slower and the SD probably calculates out pretty good, especially for fireforming!
FWIW

It was a cross wind from L to R all the more reason to be confident in the up and left then down and right travel of the groups.

Out here where the trees are miles apart you are always shooting in the wind and after a while you can kind of spot when the wind got a hold of one.

These were not fire forms. I fire formed 200 after shooting this lesser with my other brass that I do most of my testing with.
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Reloading / Re: 6.5 Stabal test
Last post by mnbogboy -
Here's my take 47.3 & 47.4 combined have 5 out of 6 with about 1/4" of verticle at 600 yards. Assuming the 9-12 mph in the notes meant crosswind.  Not knowing if the 6th shot (high one in 47.3) was the slowest or fastest or in between.  Pull out the faster or the slower and the SD probably calculates out pretty good, especially for fireforming!
FWIW
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Reloading / Re: 6.5 Stabal test
Last post by HufD63 -
@autoxforfun

For the reasons you listed above 47.2 is the best load on the page. I had wind but it was steady and the fact that the groups went left and up then topped out with the Ys and went down and right says to me wind was not the issue and the colors stayed together. There's no crazy shot that's not with the other two colors.
The whole target is 5" vertical 5" windage about .83 MOA across half a grain of powder. It never settled with 2 or three charges overlapping though it was moving on or starting to move on with every bump.

I think the 184s really like it in the 2720 - 2740 range and I'm just above that so I'll keep laddering down until I find the sweet spot or get back down in the 2690 - 2710 range where RL 16 likes it and seats without crunching powder. There's always 180s to try too.

It's a process!
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Reloading / Re: 6.5 Stabal test
Last post by autoxforfun -
Thanks Dave.   Reading targets can be a challenge...especially at 600 yards with environmental conditions impacting the result.   I agree, it is often looking for repeatability in the results before making a final call.  I tend to shoot ladders at 200 or 300 yards and then shoot more than a single group (usually 2) at each load point.  It does help to verify a result...but means I shoot more rounds before making a decision. 

What I liked about 47.2 was that it looked like the velocity was not changing much between 47.1 and 47.3, there was a good ES for the three shots and the group size was trending down.  So that was what caught my eye.  But you have a good point about vertical and something I should consider more.


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Reloading / Re: 6.5 Stabal test
Last post by HufD63 -
Quote from: autoxforfun on
Dave, this may be a dumb questions but here goes.  In looking at your target from the prior post, to my eye, 47.2 looked pretty good.  Why did you think that the node was at 47.4-47.6?  To me, this didn't jump out at me.

You have to go back a couple targets. In the pic below the top target is today the bottom is on the 10th.

If you notice today 47.4 had no vertical and on the 10th 47.5 had no vertical and 47.6 was vertical but small and overlapped 47.5
Doesn't necessarily mean anything but it is repeated behavior close to the same spot. The seating depth is adjusted .004" between the two targets from the seating depth test the other day.

47.2 is the best of today's target but nothing is truly staying with it, P is there but moving on back down trying to be with G too.

Need to ladder down again and find the spot where there is some solid overlap preferably with some positive compensation.
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Reloading / Re: 6.5 Stabal test
Last post by HufD63 -
Quote from: gman47564 on
dave on a test like that which one do you pic...

I haven't picked "one" yet.....


47.4 -.6 looks good but again I think it's right up there on the edge of pressure and will surely be over when it warms up. When I played around up there at 48 I loosened 4 primer pockets. Loose enough I'm not going to risk blowing them out. If I had to pick one out of here? Y but only because it grouped kinda small and because P is trying to stay with it but it's getting bigger and leaving.
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Reloading / Re: 6.5 Stabal test
Last post by autoxforfun -
Dave, this may be a dumb questions but here goes.  In looking at your target from the prior post, to my eye, 47.2 looked pretty good.  Why did you think that the node was at 47.4-47.6?  To me, this didn't jump out at me.
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General Discussion / Re: Getting started
Last post by sportacus -
beaverine,
First of all, welcome.  Somehow I missed this thread.  My two cents.  Sell what you have.  Buy a Ruger American compact or predator from Grab a Gun.  Both have predator {heavy} profile barrels. Both less that $400 last time I checked. Install a new trigger spring from MCARBO {$12) and adjust to 2.5 to 3  lbs. They shoot 1/2 MOA with most 130-140 factory offerings. Out to 400, with decent glass, not high end and a steady hand, if you can see it, you will kill it. 
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Reloading / Re: Annealing
Last post by Piper11 -
Sorry or the late response work got in the way of play. First of all the original picture I posted was very dark it accents the coloring on the brass through the vacuum rap that said , i originally never did anything to the brass after annealing I re tumbled the brass and it looks perfect lesson learned pay more attention to the details thanks to Autoxforfun for his input as well as all trying to help me out.

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