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Title: Precision and Accuracy course
Post by: LeadHammer on May 29, 2021, 10:46:18 PM
I noticed up here we have a course coming up, looks interesting, two day, fundamentals, shooting positions, scope etc. $1000.   Just curious what others have noticed in their area for cost to similar courses.
I think the folks who put this on are likely top notch as they are a veteran based group. 200 rounds required for the event.
Too bad I'm not able to afford it................actually might be at the lake then as well.
Title: Re: Precision and Accuracy course
Post by: Ranger 188 on May 30, 2021, 12:39:36 AM
http://thesitetraining.com/precision-rifle
This is a 3 day course. I have taken it. Great learning experience.
Have shot with the teacher a couple of other times too.
Was invited to help out anytime I wanted to.
Title: Re: Precision and Accuracy course
Post by: LeadHammer on May 30, 2021, 02:56:14 PM
http://thesitetraining.com/precision-rifle
This is a 3 day course. I have taken it. Great learning experience.
Have shot with the teacher a couple of other times too.
Was invited to help out anytime I wanted to.

Thanks. Looks like prices up here are similar. I will need to take one of these one day.  I know of another, ex sniper, who holds classes as well. Much cheaper so I may start with him first.

My 6.5 Stealth and reloads and optic are up to the task. So it’s just me that needs work. 
Title: Re: Precision and Accuracy course
Post by: gman47564 on May 30, 2021, 03:27:33 PM
I took the school of hard knocks classes.. 😁multiple attempts at a 1000 before i finally connected.. learned alot from it and more since.. biggest thing for me was getting a good ballistics app and getting my stuff input in it right and trusting the solution it gave me.. pretty confident in first round hits way out there any more.. practice practice practice..
Title: Re: Precision and Accuracy course
Post by: autoxforfun on May 30, 2021, 03:40:24 PM
I've thought about one of these classes...it would be fun to just get away for a couple of days and focus just on my shooting.  But like others, I have boot strapped myself along.   Don't know how active a range you have access to, but I was fortunate to be able to sign up for a few 1 day clinics here locally.  So for about $100 plus ammo each, I was able to get some good instruction on distances out to 1000 yards as well as what it was like to run steel under a timer.  I now take advantage of the NBRSA/PRS/F-class clubs that shoot monthly matches and weekly practices....I have learned a lot by just listening to these guys and asking the occasional stupid question.  But the best thing was just spending time behind the rifle.......and learning to read the wind.
Title: Re: Precision and Accuracy course
Post by: LeadHammer on May 30, 2021, 05:05:13 PM
I have managed 1000 yard hits already, The first outing was tough, the second outing I made some decent hits on my 18.5" square gong.  The wind is crazy at 1000+. At 500 yards, the wind is somewhat manageable, and decent hits were easy. The wind here on the prairies is gusty at the best of times.  I was at my local 300M range today, the 3" plate. they have is super easy. Just used bags and dialled 1.4 mils. I need to request a 1.5" plate.
My field that I can shoot 1000 on, I was unable to make it out there before seeding. I need to find a spot thats all year long somehow.  We have a long distance range with a real berm, F-class etc, it's further away so I have not joined there. ( 103 miles one way )
Title: Re: Precision and Accuracy course
Post by: Roaneman on May 30, 2021, 05:08:28 PM
I have mixed feelings surrounding professionally taught shooting classes.  Not disparaging by any means those highly qualified folks who provide them.  I have only shot F-class 1000 yard twice competitively.  My local club does this about four weekends a year so I am limited.

First time out was the orientation which was awesome.  I had never shot much past 100 yards and with a Ruger Precision and factory Hornady I did OK.  I was on the paper and pretty pleased with myself.

First match was "OK" I stayed on the paper but nothing that would make Camp Perry competitors tremble.  I started to share with some shooting friends I was doing 1000 yards to be met by the cocked head and a confused look.  Beyond their collective comprehension.  Made me more driven.

Last match was an eye opener for me.  I had settled on Lupua brass with Hornady 140 grain ELD's (we load what we have or can get these days).  F-Class is three stages of 20+ sighters and the first two stank.  I wont even tell you what they were. 

The last stage I found the groove.  I learned to use the time - not rush - and found the only variable was my prone stance on the rifle.   The ammo was right, the rifle was capable, it was simply me.  The last set I shot a 186 out of 200 which I know the big boys may smile at but I was in hogs heaven. Here's what I changed.

I plant my body as firmly as possible into the mat put the crosshair just below the center target.  Position the rear bag so that the stock has to be slightly compressed onto it in order to achieve on center.  Let it fly.

I know this is probably so rudimentary to seasoned shooters that I may be laughed at.  But it seems to work for me.

Back to the OP I think shooting well is unique to each of us, not necessarily a tutor.

One last comment.  There is nothing like the feeling of hitting it at 1000 yards.  Nothing.

Roaneman.
Title: Re: Precision and Accuracy course
Post by: gman47564 on May 30, 2021, 06:17:14 PM
That first time is like christmas morning as a kid.. all smiles.. that steel match i went to a couple months ago my first stage was 1370 yards.. im thinkin crap.. lol.. but dialed it in and let one fly.. first one of the day for me.. waited a second and jacked another one in and clang!!!.. first one finally got there and rung the bell.. was good to go after that..
Title: Re: Precision and Accuracy course
Post by: Roaneman on May 30, 2021, 06:38:12 PM
I think I was hooked on long range when I put my 45-70 Pedersoli Sharps into steel at around 100-200 yards.  Half a second after the shot you heard the report of the slug hitting the gong.  I know its basic math surrounding the speed of sound but wow - it was so cool.

Guess we are all kids at heart.