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Hunting / Re: ABLR V AB
December 18, 2021, 09:01:59 PM
Quote from: LeadHammer on September 22, 2021, 10:02:07 AMI would also be concerned with the SST's on deer at higher velocities.   have had trouble with them in my 270.
I also shot a coyote at 200 yards, no exit wound. 130gr SST 3050fps at the muzzle.
Leadhammer, I don't have a 270 any more but when I did the bullet of choice was a 140gn SST. It seemed to shoot better that the 130gn. However on lighter deer like the Fallows we get here, the exit wound was enormous.
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Bolt Action Rifles / Re: recommendations on 6mm BR BUILD
December 18, 2021, 08:53:13 PM
I'm not sure what you want to use the rifle for, but I'm thinking mostly paper. I've been shooting a 6BR for some time now, built to shoot bench rest at 300m. I went with a 26 inch barrel, and an 10 twist. I found that 87 and 90gn Berger VLD Target bullets shot really well. I'm using 8208 in mine, with the bullets seated to engage the lands. I'm also using CCI bench rest small rifle primers and Lapua brass.
The barrel is one made for me by a local Australian barrel maker, the action is a Howa, and the stock is an English Walnut thumbhole type. The rifle has shot .8 inch at 300m. The point is that you can put a good rifle together without selling your children.
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Hunting / Re: ABLR V AB
September 21, 2021, 09:16:24 PM
G'Day Wayne,
I've had the same experience with a Fallow doe I shot for meat a while back. I was using my 7x57 with a 139gn SST, and while I was taking the skin off, the jacket fell out on the ground. The carcase was hanging at the time. Apparently these bullets are great killers but they do have a habit of the core and jacket separating. I shot a good sized pig one with my 257 Roberts using a 117gn SST and the same thing happened. There was no exit wound to be found and the dirty bugger had been rolling around in something disgusting so I didn't go in for a look. The exit hole was like a pencil had gone through. Having said all that, I've never had a deer walk away after getting hit with an SST. As they say; if you hit them in the right place, they'll fall down.
John
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Hunting / Re: ABLR V AB
September 17, 2021, 01:48:02 PM
Hi Wayne,
Here's a pic of the best group using the 123gn SST's. I haven't shot any AB's yet, but I believe that at Creedmoor velocities they should work well.
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Hunting / Re: ABLR V AB
September 17, 2021, 12:27:03 AM
G'Day Sportacus,
Thanks for the input mate. I did have a Savage LRP that shot the 130gn Nosler RDF really well, so I thought I'd go with the Accubonds in the same weight. However as bullet construction would be very similar in both 130 and 140, and I don't hunt at long range, I thought I could use those lighter bullets.
As in the USA, components are hard to come by here in Australia, although I have plenty of H4350, so I can do some experimenting.
Cheers,
John
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Hunting / ABLR V AB
September 16, 2021, 09:25:33 PM
I have a number nice rifles and each one wears walnut and blued steel. However I recently underwent a bit of a re-assessment due to advancing years, and bought a nice light rifle. That rifle is a Tikka Lite and the cartridge is 6.5 Creedmoor. It's yet to go hunting, but initial range shooting with some 123gn Hornady SST's looks pretty good. I also bough some Nosler Accubonds, 100 Long range and 100 standard AB's in 129 and 130gn. I'm not sure which of these would suit the Creedmoor, so I though I'd give them both a run.  I seldom if ever shoot a deer beyond 200 yards. I'd like some feedback from anyone who's familiar with both varieties.
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Hunting / Re: Big Bull Elk ??
August 17, 2021, 12:02:00 AM
Quote from: lucky13 on August 15, 2021, 03:17:42 PMwatch a vidio of wayne van zwoll  on you tube drop an elk at 603 yards with one shot 6.5 creedmoor it travels about 25 yards and drops.
hunt with what you shoot best, have your guide watch it also
I don't know who Wayne Van Zwoll is but I'd reckon shooting anything at that range is pretty chancy to the point of being irresponsible, especially an animal that size. Sorry if I have offended anyone, but in my book hunting is about getting as close as you can, then get closer. It's hunting, not long range competition.
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Hunting / Re: Back to hunting
August 15, 2021, 10:39:58 PM
That's my thoughts precisely Hammer, The longer bullets are great for holding velocity longer but the way bullet technology is going, you don't need those heavier bullets if the ranges are shorter. I believe in getting as close as I can.
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Reloading / Re: 1000 yard velocity
August 15, 2021, 03:52:47 PM
You are absolutely correct autox. I made a mistake with that Nosler brass and should have known better. I had some Norma brass as well, but didn't make the same mistake with it. I'm told Nosler brass is made by Norma, but that could be an urban myth. My muzzle velocity was similar to yours, and I was pretty gob smacked to see how the Berger bullet held that sort of velocity out that far. I went over to 130gn Nosler RDF's after that, but never got the chance to shoot them out to 1,000yards. They did well at 500 however.
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Reloading / Re: 1000 yard velocity
August 15, 2021, 12:03:55 AM
I only shot my Creed out to 1,000yards once, and fortunately we were using an electronic target system that fed the data back to my tablet on the bench. Terminal velocity was 1,560 fps. The load was 42.6gn H4350, Hornady brass, CCI LR primers and 140gn Berger VLD's. This load showed no signs of excess pressure in the Hornady brass, but if I used it on some Nosler brass which was heavier, the primer pockets enlarged. Obviously, it was an accurate load, and worked well at the 500m range I developed it for. However, I'd be the first to admit that even though there was no evidence of pressure, it must have been close to the red line if it loosened primer pockets with Nosler brass. Later on, I tried seating primers in the Nosler brass, and they could be made to fall out if they were lightly tapped on the bench. So it's incredibly easy to step over the line into dangerous territory.
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Reloading / Re: 120 ELDM’s
August 14, 2021, 11:46:26 PM
Quote from: gman47564 on July 07, 2021, 10:44:07 PMMy tikka t3x lite likes the 120 eldm. It also likes a 140 eldm and a 107 blitz king..
That got my attention. I'm about to load for a Tikka Lite and decided to go lighter than the 140gn class I used for paper. My idea is that a well constructed lighter bullet travelling a bit faster should be better from a hunting perspective. As I limit myself to 200m shots on game, the extra BC afforded by bullets heavier than 130gn shouldn't be an issue.
 
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Hunting / Back to hunting
August 14, 2021, 09:58:26 PM
I decided that I'd had enough of long range target shooting and decoded I'd sell by Savage 12LRP. I also sold all the stock I had of match bullets. But I still had a heap of brass and some great dies. Seeing as how my first love is hunting it followed that I'd get a 6.5 Creed hunting rifle, so I ordered a Tikka Lite.
Now, those high BC 140 plus weight target bullets are great for punching paper, but As I never shoot an animal further away than 200m I didn't think they'd be needed. I went down to well constructed bullets like 130gn Nosler Accubonds and Hornady 123gn SST's. I reckoned on getting good hunting accuracy, but with more velocity. I'd be interested in any comments on this. I've got plenty of H4350 by the way.
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Hunting / Re: My Only Creedmoor Hunt.
August 14, 2021, 08:59:56 PM
 Seeing as how I'm primarily a meat hunter, scoring seldom enters into it. Unless it's one of those "mines fatter than yours" things. I just get great pleasure from having an armed bushwalk. If I get a deer great, if not there's always the supermarket.
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Reloading / Re: RDF
March 21, 2021, 07:18:59 PM
I decided against the 140 RDFs and went to the 130gn. The BC on the 130 RDF is higher than the BC on the 140gn VLD, and the 130's stabilise really well. I went over to the Nosler bullet due unreliable supply of the Bergers here in Australia. I have not regretted it and have them shoot well out to 500m.
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Hunting / Re: bullet recommendation for elk and oryx
March 19, 2021, 08:32:47 PM
Quote from: Denver Steve on February 01, 2021, 03:06:26 AMNosler 140 grain Partition
Nosler 140 grain Accubond
Swift 140 grain A-frame
Hornady 140 grain Gmx
Hornady 160 grain RN Interlock
Lapua 155 grain Mega and 140 grain Naturalis
All woodleigh 6.5mm projectiles
Norma 156 grain Oryx, Alaska, Vulkan and 143 grain Bondstrike

I find the 142 grain Accubond long range is a great performer on elk sized animals as long as the impact velocity isn't too high. Great option if the shot is going to be a bit further.
The Norma and woodleigh bullets don't seem to get enough love for some reason. Great bullets. My sister just killed a elk using the 156 Oryx out of a creedmoor. Bullet performed flawlessly.


I use Woodleigh bullets in my 7x57 Steve. Great bullet with heaps of penetration. I have a Creedmoor I use for long range match shooting and seriousl;y thinking about getting one just for hunting.