The Creedmoor Forum

The data comes from Hornady Handbook 10Th Edition that was released not even a year ago.

From Hornady's latest reloading manual:
140gr ELD-M - COL 2.800"
120gr ELD-M - COL 2.710"

I use this on my Chargemaster:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/755866/rcbs-electronic-scale-powder-funnel-pan

I like it because it has a built-in funnel.

Quote from: stormin_moorman on March 24, 2017, 09:57:10 AMYou're like Rob01, except with LabRadar instead of Hornady

But I get no sponsorship at all from Labradar, I am just a happy customer.  

Quote from: stormin_moorman on March 24, 2017, 07:14:56 AMOne more thing, customer service appears to be non-existent with Lab.  There's no number to call and that blows.  At least with Magneto you can speak to someone, from Texas no less.  And those guys are cool as shit

From Labradar's website:
You can also call us at 316-866-2525 (M-F, 8:00 - 5:00 Central Time Zone)

Quote from: Litehiker on March 05, 2017, 05:21:51 PMIs there any way you can automatically remind those of us who donate when it's time to "re-donate"?

Eric B.

That is a good feature request.  I will submit that to the software developers.

Quote from: stormin_moorman on March 24, 2017, 07:14:56 AMWhat i like about Lab is that i can set it up and just do my normal shooting and it records the velocities for me.  I don't even really think about it all that much.  I do run into problems when I'm at the range and a lot of other people are shooting, it records their shots and screws everything up.  Also, the Lab doesn't really like muzzle brakes.  I've had some issues with the 28 Nosler with the Lil Bastard.  Maybe i should read the instructions and figure out how to fix this....lol

One more thing, customer service appears to be non-existent with Lab.  There's no number to call and that blows.  At least with Magneto you can speak to someone, from Texas no less.  And those guys are cool as shit

One thing you can do to prevent your Labradar from registering shots from other people, is to lower the trigger level sensitivity.  I usually set mine to 3.  I shoot with both muzzle breaks and suppressors.  Check this video:
https://youtu.be/2Hm5RlnhhWo
It tells you exactly where your muzzle needs to be depending on the muzzle device that you are using.  Yes the instruction manual is very helpful, but the YouTube videos from LabRadar are even better.  After you read the manual and watch the videos, you will be able to tell who did not read the manual before posting a negative review on YouTube. 

Quote from: Litehiker on March 23, 2017, 06:58:00 PMI read that Ultra long range shooters are shifting to radar for chronographing bullets. Why?

Eric B.

1. The Magnetospeed attaches to the muzzle and changes POI.  Labradar does not.
2. The Labradar can measure speeds down range, the magneto speed only gets you muzzle speed.
3. The Magnetospeed needs different configurations/muzzle attachments for different rifles, for suppressed vs. unsuppressed, etc.
4. The Labradar literally takes one or two minutes to setup. 
5. Labradar can measure the speed of arrows.
I sold my Magnetospeed v3 and bought a Labradar.  The Labradar is so easy to use, that I take it with me every time I got to the range.  It was the key for my 6.5 Creedmoor loads development.

Quote from: Cleveland48 on March 23, 2017, 05:56:22 PMThanks for the Info! Got it saved to my phone, now if I can only find some RL16!

Powder Valley and Graf & Sons have it in stock.

Quote from: jvw2008 on March 23, 2017, 02:33:50 PM@txcas. Have you checked velocity comparison between suppressor on versus suppressor off?

Very nice group by the way. ?

42.0gr unsuppressed - 5 shots average 2,671 fps
42.0gr suppressed - 5 shots average 2,687 fps
41.8gr suppressed - need to test next time

Quote from: MLN1963 on March 23, 2017, 02:09:00 PMtxcas

I think you hit the jackpot! How were the groups before you backed off? What projectile are you using? I'd say it's 140 grains or higher I'm guessing based off your speeds? How far off the lands? I have an Omega that should be released within 30 days. I still haven't found a pet load with 130 ELD-Ms, H4350, BR2 and Hornady brass.

Before reducing the load the groups looked like buckshot at short range.  They were all over the place.  The projectile is Hornady 140gr ELD-M.  I have not measured how far from the lands, but this was fired twice Hornady brass with shoulders bumped down .002", .288 bushing for the neck, and CCI BR2 primers.

Quote from: dadajack on March 23, 2017, 01:23:50 PMYou did mean 42.0 grains, no?

I did.  I corrected the post.

The attachment has the tested load data that Alliant has developed for the Creedmoor.  As is the case with Alliant load data for most metallic cartridges, these loads are the max loads and need to be reduced by 10% for starting charges.
 
 

Quote from: bowman3899 on March 23, 2017, 01:01:29 PMDid you check velocity difference?

42.0gr unsuppressed - 5 shots average 2,671 fps
42.0gr suppressed - 5 shots average 2,687 fps
41.8gr suppressed - need to test next time

I finally got RL16 and worked up a load. I started at 42.2gr in 0.2gr increments and stopped at 44.0gr.  No pressure sings at 44.0. but no accuracy either.  My RPR seems to like 43.2 gr of RL16, on the new Lapua brass, using Unis Ginex primers, and Hornady 140gr ELD-M bullets.  Four bullets in a hole and a "flyer" that I am blaming on the shooter.  I used a Silencerco Saker 7.62 suppressor on the RPR rifle.  Unfortunately I was not able to get speeds, but I will post that as soon as I load and test some more.