The Creedmoor Forum

Quote from: Rob01 on December 08, 2020, 06:24:03 PMI use the Magnetospeed to get my velocities for my possible loads. I load up 10 of each and 5 get sent over the chrono and 5 get shot for grouping without the chrono. Works great. Doesn't take long at all to get a load. I have used a Magnetospeed for quite a few years now and like it a lot.

I guess I'm trying to justify the extra 160 for the v3 and just playing devil's advocate questioning why people buy the sporter, then $100-150+ for a mount instead of just getting the v3. When with the sporter they could just take the suppressor off for velocity readings and not have the MS on when testing different seating depths to not alter barrel harmonics.

I've been reloading for a few years now but have never used a chrono. I am ready to take the next step into reloading and buy one.

The #1 complaint I see regarding the magnetospeed, is it affects the barrel harmonics and so people are coming up with different ways to mount it. As I shoot suppressed, this leaves me with the v3 or chopping the sporter base.

So my question is, for an average shooter like me, I don't have access to shoot beyond 600 yards. Why not just take chrono readings without the suppressor? From all the videos and threads I've seen regarding this topic, there is minimal if any impact on the muzzle velocity/SD/ES.

So when working up a load, why not work it in these 3 steps.

• Remove suppressor mount chrono and test for the ideal charge weight
• remove chrono, mount suppressor and now test different jumps. This will allow you to dial in the load regarding barrel harmonics with your intended shooting setup and no negative affect from the MS.
• remove suppressor, mount chrono and verify muzzle velocity/ES/SD at new jump?

Please tell me if I'm missing something or why I am wrong but I feel like the $150+ spent on the MS mounts just eliminates step 3 and allows you to get exact data without the MS affecting harmonics but as mentioned before, what does this gain an average shooter like me? I get it, if I started shooting out to 1000 or beyond, then the mount would be worth it.

Quote from: gman47564 on April 04, 2018, 03:05:24 PMI'm not having the same results with my whidden fl click adjuster die. Getting 3 to 4 thousandth run out on a Forrester co ax.

Check your seater stem. I had same issue and my seater stem was cut flat. Called whidden and they shipped me a new one that was tapered and rounded on the inside to increase the total amount of surface area contact on the bullet instead of just a 90° edge.

~20 kids were injured in a mass bus crash today...

I think a lot of people clean their barrel falsely thinking groups opening up are due to fouling and underestimating barrel temperature.

My 223 has around 450 rounds through it since the last clean and it is still shooting 1/2 MOA.

Pot should be reclassified as it DOES have medicinal purposes. No studies were performed to determine medical use when it was originally classified and this was for the reason mentioned, to target and arrest minorities and later hippies.

My daughter suffers from seizures due to a rare disease that hopefully, one day, will have a gene therapy cure. I wish pot was medicinally legal as it is safer and better than 99% of over the counter drugs for seizures. Doesn't work on 100% of people but it definitely holds its ground against these toxic medications big pharma is shoving down our throats.

It aso has great uses for cancer patients, especially ones going through chemo and radiation treatment that suffer from severe nausea and lose their appetites. Therefore don't eat and become weak and widdle away because their bodies don't have the nutrition and strength needed to fight.

A big problem is the medicinal use restrictions were essentially non existent that you could stub your toe and get it prescribed. This is just stupid.

At the end of the day. The biggest problem is an individual lack of self control, understanding priorities and a sense of responsibility. People who think it's more important to get high than to go work to provide for their family.

A lot of these very loose liberal decisions being made are not only for money but for votes, just like supporting illegal immigration. It's all about the vote

Quote from: marine on December 29, 2017, 09:45:37 AMThanks for the info everyone. I'll look at the choices and decide on the seater but it looks like the bump die by Forster is the best choice for neck sizing so I might just wait the 8 weeks for the Forster dies.

Optics planet lists 24-33 days

https://www.opticsplanet.com/forster-bushing-bump-neck-sizing-die.html?_iv_code=2RJ-R6-FRBBNSZD-BBD3271

Quote from: marine on December 27, 2017, 11:23:48 AMI cannot locate the seater or their bump die and Forster is 8 weeks out on production sooo, what are the comparable die choices?

Whidden seating dies are identical to forster with the exception of whidden having a floating seating stem. He used to work for forster before making his own company.

https://youtu.be/TWmIwPwLyyg
Nuff said

I shoot my house gun in the house.

From everything I've read I think it would be safer to save up and get the RCBS. A lot of overcharge complaints with the hornady.

I guess it depends on how much time you want to spend trickling or the types of powders you use. Like h4350 you can trickle up really fast and pretty easy but a powder like H110... Ugh it's so fine it's a pita to trickle

IIRC my 264 insert has an ID of 254. I called hornady to complain and they said that was by design which I found to be flawed and frustrating as hell.

Is this correct or did I get a shite hornady customer service rep

Quote from: Beedub103 on December 15, 2017, 09:59:20 AMI dont even measure my COAL anymore. I use my Ogive Comparator and put my rounds at 0.020 off the lands. I made dummy cartridges for each bullet manufacturer to set the gauge. One dummy for 0.010 and one for 0.020 off the lands. I cant find H4350 so I have been using RL17. I don't have the velocities, to answer the next post, but I will get a chrono soon. I will be trying the 41.1 load tonight in that new Norma brass I bought. I made plenty of Jujubes (.45ACP) to plink as well.

I only measure COAL for my hunting loads.

For my target rounds, when I load I'll measure about 5% of the bullets. I'll take the longest one to ogive and set my seater to seat it an extra 5 thou longer than my target seating depth. Note the setting on my micrometer and then seat all my bullets. Then measure each one and adjust the seater accordingly and reseat.

Quote from: sharpdoug on December 15, 2017, 07:32:01 AMAnyone in the Houston area I've got 2each 8lbs. containers available if you're interested.  Pickup only $230 cash.  Just received them yesterday from big horn.
281-932-927six.  Can meet you at American shooting center or the Bass pro Shop off BW8 at 288

Im in Katy, dont need any powder atm but we should meet up someday at american shooting center.

Quote from: bailagent100 on December 15, 2017, 09:43:13 AMI can understand Litehiker's frustration with a loose, sloppy bolt but my left handed, R.A.P., 6.5Cm is the exception to his very broad "all Predators have this problem" statement.

When bench shooting, I have to push the rifle down, with the scope, using my off hand while lifting the bolt with my strong hand to cycle the action.  It's that...sticky.  Only have about a hundred rounds through it so am hoping it will loosen up some with more use.

Is it that difficult with no round loaded?