Quote from: HufD63 on May 09, 2023, 10:02:21 PMI'm not against denying a gun purchase to someone who can't pass a background check but there's no way to prove that statement correct.I totally agree, but anything we can do to save a life while still enjoying our gun rights, I think is worth a shot. Trust me, I know there will always be alternative methods, that is the system I grew up in.
They could have prevented some of them from legally purchasing a gun but there are other alternatives to get one.
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General Discussion / Re: Mass shootings in the US
May 09, 2023, 10:14:51 PM #2
General Discussion / Re: Mass shootings in the US
May 09, 2023, 08:00:21 PMQuote from: HufD63 on May 09, 2023, 07:16:44 PMIf there is 1 government gun store all they have to do is close it and we're not going to be able to exercise our "shall not be infringed upon" 2A rights for any reason. Which by the way are already heavily infringed upon in my opinion.I am not suggesting in any way a single gun store controlled by the government, or restricting law abiding citizens from getting firearms. I support 100% our 2nd amendment. I am suggesting a centralized location for background checks, and a standardized sales process across the nation. Quite a bit of the mass shootings could have been prevented if data was shared across different agencies, just like September 11 could have been prevented.
I'm sure the libs would rapidly endorse the Mexico, Canadian or Australian system but this is America.
The system may be flawed but what you suggest is not the answer in my opinion.
Situational awareness needs to replace the addiction to electronic devices. All soft targets need to be immediately hardened then a ton of this bullshit will cease.
I hate to disagree with you but you're wrong about this and and we shouldn't be considering "caving in" to something that makes it easier for the government to further infringe on our rights.
It time we do something about the criminals and nut jobs instead of further restricting law abiding citizens.
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General Discussion / Re: Mass shootings in the US
May 09, 2023, 06:40:11 PMQuote from: EagleSix on May 09, 2023, 06:34:51 PM"That is when I learned why our founding fathers gave us rights to gun ownership. The rights were not given so we could go hunting, they were given to us so we the people could defend ourselves from a tyrannic government. It was done to ensure our freedom."You sir are correct.
Our founding fathers didn't give us the rights, we have them as natural born. The 2nd Amendment is to protect our rights from the government.
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General Discussion / Mass shootings in the US
May 09, 2023, 05:30:00 PM
I usually just keep the forum running and stay out of the way, but the recent mass shootings in Texas are hitting too close to home. One of them was in the high school that one of my sons graduated from. I was born and raised in Puerto Rico (PR), a place with an identity crisis. For international sport events PR is considered a country, but for almost everything else, PR is just a Commonwealth of the United States (US). What does that mean? It means different things to different people in different places. In most of Latin America, PR is seen as a country. In other places we are just a small piece of land own by the US, or a colony, or another US state. If you ask Puerto Ricans what their nationality is, some will tell you that they are Americans and others will tell you they are Puerto Ricans. Puerto Ricans are US Citizens by birth, but if you reside in PR, you don't get to vote in the US Presidential Elections. We get to fight in every war conflict the US gets involved in, but we have no right to vote for our commander in chief.
More than 30 years ago PR had some of the strictest gun control laws in the US. So strict that they most definitely violated the US 2nd Amendment, but until recently no one cared to challenge or change those laws. Some of the consequences of such laws were things like:
In the early '90s I moved to Texas. It was the first time I saw guns at places like Walmart. To me that was totally opposite to the environment I grew up in. By the late '90s I was married, had a 5-year-old son and another baby on its way, and was living in a very secluded area with acres of land between us and our closest neighbor. It was then that I decided to buy my first firearm for home and family protection. Home and family protection also meant that I needed to protect my family from the gun itself. I bought a safe, took classes, joined the NRA, practiced at the range, and read a lot about safe gun ownership and about the US 2nd Amendment. That is when I learned why our founding fathers gave us rights to gun ownership. The rights were not given so we could go hunting, they were given to us so we the people could defend ourselves from a tyrannic government. It was done to ensure our freedom.
When my oldest son became 6 years old, I was already teaching him gun safety using the NRA's Eddie the Eagle youth education program. A few years later, a good friend invited us to join him at a shooting range. There we shot for the first time an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, or an "assault rifle" as it is better known on the media. That is where "I caught the bug." Catching the bug meant that I loved the rifle and now I wanted one bad. With the help of my friend, I built my first AR-15, but never expected what happened next. I became an NRA certified instructor for pistol, rifle, shotgun, and black powder. I taught firearm safety to hundreds of Boy Scouts, I built many more AR-15s in all kind of sizes and configurations, I shot in 3-gun sport shooting competitions, I learned reloading and made my own pistol and rifle bullets, I learned a bit about long range rifle shooting, I created this forum, and I eventually became a licensed home-based gun dealer.
Fast forward to today. I now live in Mexico, and every day I watch on the US news some kind of gun related crime. Mexico is a country that also has very strict gun control laws. Like in PR, Mexican citizens can own firearms, but the process to gun ownership is not easy. Citizens are very limited in the type of firearms they can own, and their calibers. There is only one gun store in Mexico. That store is in Mexico City, and it is run by the government. To pro-gun America, that sounds like a terrible idea. After living here for almost two years, I can see some benefits to that centralized location. Bear with me, I will explain.
For starters, there are no mass shootings in schools, churches, malls, bars, movie theaters, etc., in Mexico. There are no kids shooting other kids, there are no crazies shooting innocent people for fun, there are no suicidal cowards trying to take as many innocent people down as possible, before they are taken down. That just doesn't happen here. But what about the crime in Mexico? What about the cartels? What you see in the US media is sensational and blown out of proportion. Yes, there are shootings, but most of them are fights among different cartels, and they are not as frequent as the news and the US government want us to believe. Unfortunately, sometimes innocent bystanders or the casual tourist get caught in the crossfire. But criminals killing criminals is a win-win in my book.
Even though we can, we don't own firearms in Mexico. My wife and I feel safer here than we did in the US. There is lots of petty crime, but nothing we would consider life threatening. As a former gun dealer in the US, I found many flaws in the legal gun buying process. For example, in Texas we use the FBI to run background checks on buyers. Other states don't use the FBI and run background checks using their own databases. Some states charge for the background checks, others don't. As a licensed gun dealer shipping a firearm to another dealer in California, I had to fill out extra paperwork BS not required by any other state in the nation. The system is not consistent across the US. The questions in Form 4473, required by the ATF during a firearm purchase, are as flawed and as obsolete as the "did you pack your own bag" set of questions that airlines used to ask. A lot of people lie, there is usually no way to prove it, and ultimately it is up to the gun dealer to proceed or not with the transaction. Our system is broken, and it is not going to get fixed until our government officials cut the partisan BS.
I still remember the only customer that I ever reported to the ATF. I did the firearms transfer for him on form 4473, he passed the FBI background check, so off he went with his guns. The second time he came for a transfer he told me some crazy story about the local police taking his guns. I felt there was something off with the guy, but again, he passed the background check, and I didn't have any good reasons beside my gut feeling to stop the transaction. Later I looked up his name in Google and found that he was dishonorably discharged from the military, and other things that concerned me. For that reason, I reported him, but that was after he was gone with his new guns. How was he able to pass the FBI background checks beats me. This is just an example of our broken system. Luckily this guy didn't go on a shooting rampage.
The ATF requires that gun dealers report to them and to the local police, the purchase of two or more pistols in a single transaction, or two or more rifles of certain a type. This is so they and/or the local police can assess quickly if the customer possess some kind of risk. The first time I sent a copy of Form 4473 to report a multiple pistols purchase to the local police department, they called me back to let me know that I sent the form to them, instead of sending it to the ATF. They didn't have a clue that the ATF required me to send them a copy. Just another example of a broken system.
The centralized gun buying system here in Mexico may not be perfect, but it fixes a lot of the things that are broken in the US system. A centralized location for universal background checks makes total sense to me. But the system can only be as good as the data that is fed to it. We need to define for example what the military, health industry, local police, courts, etc. should be required to report, while striking a balance between safety and privacy. I know from experience that banning guns is not the solution. Criminals will always have access to guns, but I think centralizing background checks is something most of us on both sides of the political spectrum can agree on. To me this should not be a political issue, it should be the start of doing something sensible to protect our citizens.
More than 30 years ago PR had some of the strictest gun control laws in the US. So strict that they most definitely violated the US 2nd Amendment, but until recently no one cared to challenge or change those laws. Some of the consequences of such laws were things like:
- Guns became taboo.
- It created an underground market for guns. It was easier to buy a gun on the street, than through the legal channels.
- Criminals always had access to guns.
- Most citizens couldn't afford the cost of the gun ownership permits.
- Applicants were at the mercy of their neighbors when law enforcement ran interviews for the required background check.
- Privacy violations for the permit applicants.
- It did not reduce gun related crime at all.
In the early '90s I moved to Texas. It was the first time I saw guns at places like Walmart. To me that was totally opposite to the environment I grew up in. By the late '90s I was married, had a 5-year-old son and another baby on its way, and was living in a very secluded area with acres of land between us and our closest neighbor. It was then that I decided to buy my first firearm for home and family protection. Home and family protection also meant that I needed to protect my family from the gun itself. I bought a safe, took classes, joined the NRA, practiced at the range, and read a lot about safe gun ownership and about the US 2nd Amendment. That is when I learned why our founding fathers gave us rights to gun ownership. The rights were not given so we could go hunting, they were given to us so we the people could defend ourselves from a tyrannic government. It was done to ensure our freedom.
When my oldest son became 6 years old, I was already teaching him gun safety using the NRA's Eddie the Eagle youth education program. A few years later, a good friend invited us to join him at a shooting range. There we shot for the first time an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, or an "assault rifle" as it is better known on the media. That is where "I caught the bug." Catching the bug meant that I loved the rifle and now I wanted one bad. With the help of my friend, I built my first AR-15, but never expected what happened next. I became an NRA certified instructor for pistol, rifle, shotgun, and black powder. I taught firearm safety to hundreds of Boy Scouts, I built many more AR-15s in all kind of sizes and configurations, I shot in 3-gun sport shooting competitions, I learned reloading and made my own pistol and rifle bullets, I learned a bit about long range rifle shooting, I created this forum, and I eventually became a licensed home-based gun dealer.
Fast forward to today. I now live in Mexico, and every day I watch on the US news some kind of gun related crime. Mexico is a country that also has very strict gun control laws. Like in PR, Mexican citizens can own firearms, but the process to gun ownership is not easy. Citizens are very limited in the type of firearms they can own, and their calibers. There is only one gun store in Mexico. That store is in Mexico City, and it is run by the government. To pro-gun America, that sounds like a terrible idea. After living here for almost two years, I can see some benefits to that centralized location. Bear with me, I will explain.
For starters, there are no mass shootings in schools, churches, malls, bars, movie theaters, etc., in Mexico. There are no kids shooting other kids, there are no crazies shooting innocent people for fun, there are no suicidal cowards trying to take as many innocent people down as possible, before they are taken down. That just doesn't happen here. But what about the crime in Mexico? What about the cartels? What you see in the US media is sensational and blown out of proportion. Yes, there are shootings, but most of them are fights among different cartels, and they are not as frequent as the news and the US government want us to believe. Unfortunately, sometimes innocent bystanders or the casual tourist get caught in the crossfire. But criminals killing criminals is a win-win in my book.
Even though we can, we don't own firearms in Mexico. My wife and I feel safer here than we did in the US. There is lots of petty crime, but nothing we would consider life threatening. As a former gun dealer in the US, I found many flaws in the legal gun buying process. For example, in Texas we use the FBI to run background checks on buyers. Other states don't use the FBI and run background checks using their own databases. Some states charge for the background checks, others don't. As a licensed gun dealer shipping a firearm to another dealer in California, I had to fill out extra paperwork BS not required by any other state in the nation. The system is not consistent across the US. The questions in Form 4473, required by the ATF during a firearm purchase, are as flawed and as obsolete as the "did you pack your own bag" set of questions that airlines used to ask. A lot of people lie, there is usually no way to prove it, and ultimately it is up to the gun dealer to proceed or not with the transaction. Our system is broken, and it is not going to get fixed until our government officials cut the partisan BS.
I still remember the only customer that I ever reported to the ATF. I did the firearms transfer for him on form 4473, he passed the FBI background check, so off he went with his guns. The second time he came for a transfer he told me some crazy story about the local police taking his guns. I felt there was something off with the guy, but again, he passed the background check, and I didn't have any good reasons beside my gut feeling to stop the transaction. Later I looked up his name in Google and found that he was dishonorably discharged from the military, and other things that concerned me. For that reason, I reported him, but that was after he was gone with his new guns. How was he able to pass the FBI background checks beats me. This is just an example of our broken system. Luckily this guy didn't go on a shooting rampage.
The ATF requires that gun dealers report to them and to the local police, the purchase of two or more pistols in a single transaction, or two or more rifles of certain a type. This is so they and/or the local police can assess quickly if the customer possess some kind of risk. The first time I sent a copy of Form 4473 to report a multiple pistols purchase to the local police department, they called me back to let me know that I sent the form to them, instead of sending it to the ATF. They didn't have a clue that the ATF required me to send them a copy. Just another example of a broken system.
The centralized gun buying system here in Mexico may not be perfect, but it fixes a lot of the things that are broken in the US system. A centralized location for universal background checks makes total sense to me. But the system can only be as good as the data that is fed to it. We need to define for example what the military, health industry, local police, courts, etc. should be required to report, while striking a balance between safety and privacy. I know from experience that banning guns is not the solution. Criminals will always have access to guns, but I think centralizing background checks is something most of us on both sides of the political spectrum can agree on. To me this should not be a political issue, it should be the start of doing something sensible to protect our citizens.
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Forum Blog / New Member Orientation
March 08, 2023, 02:29:58 PM
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The historic and iconic term "Creedmoor", has been related to "excellence in rifle performance" since the late 1800's. From the original range on the Creed farm in New York, to today's most versatile center fire cartridge, the name carries prestige. The Creedmoor forum focuses on its namesake cartridge, but it is also open to discussion of information from all rifle cartridges. We believe the broadened knowledge from multiple cartridges will help significantly, in your pursuit of excellence with the variety of Creedmoor cartridges used today. Our members strive to provide a friendly, supportive, and sharing environment for all. No question is too trivial and disrespectful conduct is not tolerated. Welcome to our family of firearm enthusiasts who are here to learn and share.
Forum Navigation Basics
Both desktop and mobile devices are supported. Depending on your device, you may see slight variations in format. On log in, the forum opens to the Home page which gives an overview of current member activity, including the most recent posts. Once logged in, you can access your personal profile from your avatar on the left side of the Home page. In the menu bar of the Home page, you will find access to the full Forum page and various Search options. From the menu bar click Forum, and then click any subject listed there to gain access to all threads ever posted on the forum. Threads will be listed from newest to oldest. The Search options in the Home page menu bar are broad and will help you find specific information that has been posted in the past.
Posting
If you would like to start a new thread, click on the appropriate subject on the Forum page. Activate "user action" and place your question or information within the box after giving your thread a title. Don't forget to click "post" when you are done.
If you want to contribute to a thread that already exists, move to the last entry and write your response in the "quick response" box before posting. Pictures can be added to your post using the "add image" tool.
A new member verification tool will prevent your first five posts from loading. This is in place to discourage trolls from disrupting forum activity. Once you have completed the five-attempt process, all following posts will automatically load.
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This forum is a member operated, non-profit endeavor - with internet expenses. It is not our goal to secure a profit, but rather to just stay afloat. The development, maintenance, and monitoring of the forum is accomplished by forum members who volunteer their time and expertise. As with many firearm forums today, the standard Google ad financial support is no longer available. If you are not volunteering your time and you believe you receive a benefit from information you acquire here as a member, our whole membership would truly appreciate a monetary donation that you feel you can afford. Scheduled donations can be made through the donation link on the Home page. If you want to toss in an occasional "tip", click on the coffee cup icon. Thank you.
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Forum Blog / Support the forum - Buy me a coffee
February 03, 2023, 06:18:30 AM
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Forum Blog / Re: Difficulties posting pictures
January 17, 2023, 12:48:13 PMQuote from: LeadHammer on January 17, 2023, 12:15:33 PMWhat image size are y'all choosing?I don't think it matters because all we get on the forum is a preview of the original image.
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Forum Blog / Re: Difficulties posting pictures
January 17, 2023, 12:46:41 PMQuote from: jvw2008 on January 17, 2023, 11:41:26 AM@txcasFor now it is a free service. I guess we will ride it for as long as we can.
Is there a cost to the forum for this image link?
Is there a limit to the number of pics we post?
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Forum Blog / Re: Difficulties posting pictures
January 17, 2023, 11:30:06 AMQuote from: jvw2008 on January 17, 2023, 11:15:08 AMCan someone post a step by step process for us illiterates:It is super easy. Just click on:
One for iPhone
One for android
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Forum Blog / Re: Difficulties posting pictures
January 17, 2023, 11:08:33 AM
Postimage works great, the only side effect I am noticing is that after posting it returns to the topics. I will provide feedback to the developers.
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Forum Blog / Re: Difficulties posting pictures
January 17, 2023, 11:06:22 AM
Testing from Android phone.
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Forum Blog / Re: Difficulties posting pictures
January 17, 2023, 11:01:59 AM
Testing from iPhone.
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Forum Blog / Re: Difficulties posting pictures
January 17, 2023, 10:56:21 AM
Here is another test with large previews. I like this setting better.
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Forum Blog / Re: Difficulties posting pictures
January 17, 2023, 10:53:47 AM
Postimage is now enabled on the forum. Here is a test with small previews.
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Forum Blog / Re: Difficulties posting pictures
January 17, 2023, 10:47:19 AMQuote from: VA-XBolt on January 17, 2023, 10:27:57 AM@txcas
It looks like there is a way to help streamline adding in photos but still have them hosted on postimage.com. See link below for a description and also links to add in code for SMF.
https://postimages.org/plugins
Good find! Looking into that right now.