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Title: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: txcas on December 27, 2016, 09:33:39 PM
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The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? (https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2016/12/20/the-65-creedmoor-what-s-the-big-deal/)

by Richard Mann - Tuesday, December 20, 2016
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Litehiker on December 29, 2016, 12:24:09 AM
Thank you Tex.
This link should be in a "sticky" here in the General Discussion forum.

It clearly explains why we like the 6.5 Creedmoor so much and why it is such a sweet cartridge for so many shooting pursuits. As it says, it's explained in "hillbilly terms" so even us ridge-runnin', gully jumping'  hillbillies can understand it - as well as newcomers to the cartridge.

Eric B.
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Cold Trigger Finger on December 29, 2016, 02:00:40 AM
 Dadajack; read it and weep 😉🐴💃
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Danbonzo on December 29, 2016, 05:39:02 AM
Question. If you're a Hillbilly, how can you read it in the first place?  Just sayin 😬
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: The Marshall on January 01, 2017, 09:37:05 AM
The 260 Remington was built to be a .264 caliber cartridge. Here it is. Then, the 6.5mm Creedmoor was built to fix the issue with the 260 Rem and long bullets. Now, the 6.5 Creedmoor is the long-range, go-to cartridge shooters could easily use without needing to be a reloader. Low and behold, a few hunting type bullets exist and now we have a long range hunting cartridge. Wa-laaaaaw!
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Fuj on January 02, 2017, 04:24:59 PM
After doing a little dated reading research.....Is it possible that
the 6.5 Creedmoor would'nt have come into existence if Remington
would have gotten barrel twist rates right early on for the 260 ??
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Wilson1911 on January 02, 2017, 05:22:38 PM
You would be correct. You can find lots of posts over the net relating to barrel twist being mucked up by Rem.


In a nutshell, the 260 had barrel twist probs, having to load mag length, and case growth. The creed has better efficiency, seating depth, and being designed from the start to solve the 260 probs.

Most of the 260 guys tout their mighty round because they have lapua brass for it. This will change once lapua releases their brass with small primers. Their is nothing wrong with the 260. I think they saw the potential of the 6.5's, but they have a hard time admitting the creed is a better design.
 To take it a step further, the 6.5x47L is even better. Its one of the best over engineered cases on the market. Everyone runs them way over the pressure levels used in 600 meter comps they were designed for. The creed is actually a 6.5x49L for comparisons sake.

This is what has so many people ramped up. Lapua knows they can make the round to the 47 pressure levels, after all, its only 2 mils more in length. I am hoping they refine it enough to blow the 47's from being king of the hill. The extra room in the case should make them less temperamental. In my 6x47L .1 grains makes a big difference.

The creed is the perfect balance of case design/performance.
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: jvw2008 on January 02, 2017, 05:39:55 PM
If you don't believe that brass quality and consistency are important to precision reloading, ask a competitor why they are willing to pay so much for Lapua brass. I can't wait to get my hands on some small primer Lapua Creedmoor product. My next bench build might get changed from a 6Dasher to a 6.5 Creedmoor.
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Ed on January 02, 2017, 06:31:00 PM
I have some on order. I have a new barrel. As soon as they come in I will take the Creed down for some new blood. Can't wait
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Wilson1911 on January 02, 2017, 08:19:54 PM
I am wondering how many thousands of those little blue boxes got put on backorder from grafs....I can see 5k boxes already sold.
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: NeVs24 on January 02, 2017, 09:25:48 PM
What primers are you guys guessing will be the go to for the Lapua Brass? Think they will need magnums?
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Wilson1911 on January 02, 2017, 11:08:46 PM
I am currently using 205 mar primers, but when these run out I am going to buy 450's and run them. Most of the 47 guys already use them.
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Ed on January 02, 2017, 11:13:31 PM
I am currently using 205 mar primers, but when these run out I am going to buy 450's and run them. Most of the 47 guys already use them.
I use 450s in my Dasher and they appear to be the best for my load
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: NeVs24 on January 02, 2017, 11:51:26 PM
Great to hear, I've got 2k 450's sitting around :)
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: huntschool on January 05, 2017, 02:43:18 PM
Just a thought.......  I find it rather interesting that Remington has "blown" it on two different rounds and perhaps 3 by using the wrong twist in their barrels.......

I have just purchased a Ruger #1 in 6.5 and have today started the pre shooting barrel cleaning.  I am looking forward to spending time developing this gun into an accurate shooter.  I really want to try it with quality factory ammo before anything else.  As was stated, that was one of the original ideas.......

By the way..... Hello to all, New guy here from Southernmost Illinois..... Not Chicago, almost 6.5 hours south of there... No pun intended with the 6.5.......
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: stormin_moorman on January 05, 2017, 02:55:48 PM
Remington is like that guy you knew in high school that could have started on a SEC football team as a freshman.  But instead got his girlfriend pregnant, got hooked on crack and went to jail for robbing a Dollar General. 
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Cold Trigger Finger on January 05, 2017, 03:06:38 PM
Huntshcool;  Welcome to the Creedmoor forum.  Please keep us updated with your #1 progress.
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Wilson1911 on January 05, 2017, 03:19:45 PM
Cerberus group is the problem now days. Rem had some good years, but they do nothing these days. If federal loved me, they would put more primers on the shelves for us all.

@stormin ;D  you are the man of the thread now lol
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Danbonzo on January 05, 2017, 04:28:42 PM
@stormin ;D  you are the man of the thread now lol

I second that motion.
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Stugotz on January 08, 2017, 08:13:47 PM
RANGE365 6.5 Creedmoor: The Long-Range King  (http://www.range365.com/65-creedmoor-long-range-king#page-9)
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: jakeway on February 28, 2017, 09:42:21 PM
After doing a little dated reading research.....Is it possible that
the 6.5 Creedmoor would'nt have come into existence if Remington
would have gotten barrel twist rates right early on for the 260 ??

Big time!  That and Remington's poor marketing of it.

I've had a 260 since about 2010, and for a long time hated the Creedmoor because many rifle manufacturers were dropping the 260 REM in favor of the Creed.  I finally got the Creedmoor last October, and really like it a lot, but I can't say I like it any more than the 260 REM, for what I do.  One advantage of having both is I can fine-tune loads for them, using neck sizing dies, and not have nearly as much trouble keeping them straight so I don't shoot the neck sized 260 from the M77 into the RAP.
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: 1oldvakid on November 22, 2017, 12:47:22 PM
The last rifle I had built was a bad choice. I didn't know what to get. The smith suggested a 6.5 Creed and I said great...Make it a 25.06!! Now I sit here waiting on my new rifle a 6.5 Creed.
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Tnslim on December 18, 2017, 11:26:23 PM
New to the forum from east Tn and I just picked up a Savage mod 12 in 6.5 Creedmoor along with a box of Lapua small rifle primer brass, dies,Hornady modified case and Sierra 123's and 140's.  I expect it to be a shooter and if it will shoot with my 6BR I'll be happy.  I'll most likely order a Boyds Pro Varmint stock as the tupperware stock leaves a lot to be desired.  Looking forward to getting in some range time with this new piece.
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: mjarheadr on March 17, 2018, 09:51:05 AM
To be clear, I haven't started loading my creedmore yet but based on my research so far, I am getting ready to begin loading using Lapua brass (small primer), Lapua 136gr Scenar-L and CCI BR#4 primers.

I obviously don't have anything to compare my loads to yet but once I begin loading and shooting them, I will be more than happy to post my results.

What kind of before and after stats do you recommend collecting in order to get relevant and useful data?
Title: Re: The 6.5 Creedmoor: What’s the Big Deal? - NRA Article
Post by: Chuckalac on June 23, 2019, 08:28:26 AM
 I have pretty much found that my Creed with a Heavy 30"KP barrel on a Rem Short action seems to do pretty well with 41gns of the other 4350. I shoot 142 SMK's at 2768 fps +- and I am very confident with the rifle out to 1K yds. With that 30 " barrel I did have problems at first with extraction but having the bolt fitted with an M60 extractor cured that problem. Now this load I think is right at the limit because i can feel a little uplift resistance not much but you can feel it. My rifle is not a match gun but I feel that it is a very accurate all round rifle that will serve in many roles. with bipod/skid/scope and sling it goes just over 12 lbs and is a biggish gun.
I like the skid because 1 it folds right up in the notch under the magpul hunter stock and does not interfere withg using a fist or sandbag. 2 But when you want to wait for the magic moment that skid is like laying a piece of artillary. You can lay the gun and free recoil it with confidence. The gun will hold 1 moa pretty much and that is more than most   Chuck