Healthcare called today & set me up for the rona vaccine this afternoon! Done deal now the governor won't get rid of me now as much as he is a cuomo/Newsome wannebee!
I'm not even sure I want one. Maybe next year.
Got my first dose Pfizer shot yesterday. We went from unobtanium two weeks ago to please come get it. Wife goes in Thursday for the Moderna shot.
It's one of these things where you just don't know what happens if you get rona. We know folks who got it, couple weeks later they are fine. Another guy got it in January, spent several weeks in the hospital and was finally able to leave his home yesterday for a trip to the grocery store without his oxygen buddy.
Knowing my luck, I'd lose my shooting eye and trigger finger :(
Got my second shot over a month ago and no new arms growing and I am not a zombie so all good. Don't know why anyone would not get the shot. It's a flu shot. They got it out fast as they already had a blueprint on how to make it they just needed to tweak it. They tweak the normal flu vaccine every year also. Everyone's personal choice but with the what the virus could do versus what the vaccine could do it's an easy choice for me.
I got mine the week it was distributed. I crossfired in a 600yd F-class match this past weekend. It MUST be related to the vaccination. I'm calling Vinni Gambini.....
Quote from: rardoin on March 10, 2021, 08:13:20 AMI got mine the week it was distributed. I crossfired in a 600yd F-class match this past weekend. It MUST be related to the vaccination. I'm calling Vinni Gambini.....
In 2019 when the 600 yd SOY points leader was asked how he managed to crossfire at the 600 yd Nationals he said " it was pretty f#$@ing easy " this was obviously pre Covid, pre shot, you blaming the shot makes me laugh!
We have a lot of forced wrongs going on right now in the world, all since this covid thing started. I don't trust my government with firearms rights, and I don't trust them pushing the covid narrative either. I'm not saying it does not exist or that it's not serious, but if the MRNA was so great, we would be lining up for it WITHOUT worldwide propaganda, misinformation, and a constant barrage of shaming for not getting one, not wearing a mask, not staying in lockdown, can't see a loved one dying in the hospital, ( I would be in jail before that happened ) Canadians returning from outside of Canada here are met at the airport and" strongly" encouraged to "stay at covid hotels" for 3 days at an expense of $1200-2000 until proven PCR negative. Event 201, World Economic Forum, anti guns, anti beef, anti oil, ( unless imported from Saudi ), anti middle class taxpayer incentive to keep small businesses open and not bankrupt. Houses and selling like crazy up here, banks encouraging it, but at the same time, WEF Schwab, says by 2030 " we will own nothing and be happy about it"
I help teach my two boys 8 and 12, school at home. Not home school but Flex Ed. The content they get ( exactly the same as normal public school ) is a constant bombardment of " white privaledge ", and they have learnt nothing of serious value. Since we have a lot of Irish in our blood, I asked them to look up how and why the Irish came to North America in ships. How the accommodations were in their own country at the time, and why they risked coming here, then said this is the white privilege they are talking about. Sorry for the rant, I should be good for a month now lol,
Quote from: HufD63 on March 10, 2021, 09:16:38 AMIn 2019 when the 600 yd SOY points leader was asked how he managed to crossfire at the 600 yd Nationals he said " it was pretty f#$@ing easy " this was obviously pre Covid, pre shot, you blaming the shot makes me laugh!
It WAS the shot...no doubt...shot 20 that is :-[ would have been a 199-13X if the last X was on target 15 instead of 16....... ::)
If your healthy and not over 65 yrs. you can't get one
right away. lucky the wife is in the health care field and got
both of her's already.
"As Rob01 said, the science behind it is the same as a flu shot."
No it is not. We have no long term follow up on this new technology mRNA vaccination protocol.
The new Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine just released this week is in fact the same as the traditional "flu" vaccine. The Mederma and Pfizer vaccines they have been pushing, and now 80 million Americans are vaccinated with, are mRNA which alters your cellular DNA activity via a "messenger" system. Way too many lethal adverse affects being reported and way too much unknown down the road consequences for me to feel comfortable with this technology.
I'm not saying you shouldn't take it, just saying be informed before drinking the koolaid. I'll settle for treatment with a 99.8% survival rate. Each to his own.
Good to know Jerry, I'll get the J&J when available.
Yup I am wrong as usual. Listen to the Illuminati. Wonder if the sky is still blue? I say it is. Ok call me wrong. LOL
COVID-19 alert
Common question
Will a COVID-19 vaccine alter my DNA?
No. COVID-19 mRNA vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way.Feb 3, 2021
I dunno.. i just googled this..
My faith is stronger than my fear, no shot for me.
Never had a flu shot either, nor will I.
Jerry I trust your medical background and God over our government and fake news propaganda any day.
We've sheltered quite a few people through this Dem panic and the fires in southern Oregon this past year and have yet to get ill.
I'll continue to live free and breath freely, no mask here.
Funny just a little more than a year ago you'd get arrested for wearing a mask and open carry.
Not today! Gotta laugh
Quote from: Rob01 on March 10, 2021, 12:48:50 PMYup I am wrong as usual. Listen to the Illuminati. Wonder if the sky is still blue? I say it is. Ok call me wrong. LOL
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html
What does the word NEW mean to you Rob? Most people understand the term.
Choosing not to take established precautions and take a vaccine when available would, ideally, be a personal choice. Unfortunately it's not. By going against the science you will put yourself, your family, friends coworkers or anyone you cross paths with at risk of contracting this thing.
Just my take on it. Don't be selfish.
This is long but informative:
https://youtu.be/3htbrqnBVR8
This MD is speaking for this group of very reputable doctors:
https://frontlinemedicaldoctors.com/
Quote from: Roaneman on March 10, 2021, 01:07:56 PMChoosing not to take established precautions and take a vaccine when available would, ideally, be a personal choice. Unfortunately it's not. By going against the science you will put yourself, your family, friends coworkers or anyone you cross paths with at risk of contracting this thing.
Just my take on it. Don't be selfish.
Koolaid
I can post a video of someone saying the earth is flat too. New is new. There is no vaccine for covid before and now there is. It's new. Whether you want to take it is up to you and with personal choice comes the responsibility for the outcome of your actions as well. So take it, don't take it. I don't really care.
Quote from: Roaneman on March 10, 2021, 01:07:56 PMChoosing not to take established precautions and take a vaccine when available would, ideally, be a personal choice. Unfortunately it's not. By going against the science you will put yourself, your family, friends coworkers or anyone you cross paths with at risk of contracting this thing.
Just my take on it. Don't be selfish.
Being fairly new here you will learn that there is a group here you don't disagree with or they all jump on you. I like to call them the Illuminati of the site. Not as big of a secret as the original Illuminati though.
Quote from: Roaneman on March 10, 2021, 01:07:56 PMChoosing not to take established precautions and take a vaccine when available would, ideally, be a personal choice. Unfortunately it's not. By going against the science you will put yourself, your family, friends coworkers or anyone you cross paths with at risk of contracting this thing.
Just my take on it. Don't be selfish.
I dont see it as being selfish.
I believe the virus is real for sure but I also believe it's been blown way out of proportion.
I believe it is a firearmized virus to crush the world's economy to bring about one world order, government, banking. Just a look around and everyone should be able to see this for themselves.
Just like Joe Biden winning the election fairly.
You just cant make this shit up.
What a better way to spread fear through the population and get them to fall in line lock step than to have an invisible enemy... The Virus
Quote from: Rob01 on March 10, 2021, 01:23:53 PMI can post a video of someone saying the earth is flat too. New is new. There is no vaccine for covid before and now there is. It's new. Whether you want to take it is up to you and with personal choice comes the responsibility for the outcome of your actions as well. So take it, don't take it. I don't really care.
Your are showing your ignorance here Rob. NEW as in "new vaccine technology" not new vaccine.
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/what-mrna-how-pfizer-moderna-tapped-new-tech-make-coronavirus-n1248054
See Roaneman they call you ignorant too if you don't agree.
Quote from: BCz on March 10, 2021, 01:28:58 PMI dont see it as being selfish.
I believe the virus is real for sure but I also believe it's been blown way out of proportion.
I believe it is a firearmized virus to crush the world's economy to bring about one world order, government, banking. Just a look around and everyone should be able to see this for themselves.
Just like Joe Biden winning the election fairly.
You just cant make this shit up.
What a better way to spread fear through the population and get them to fall in line lock step than to have an invisible enemy... The Virus
How is half a million dead people out of proportion?
I hate threads like this.. its all about opinions and which side of the fence your on.. and really no benefit to the forum..
Quote from: gman47564 on March 10, 2021, 01:44:31 PMI hate threads like this.. its all about opinions and which side of the fence your on.. and really no benefit to the forum..
I agree and anyone who doesn't share another's opinion is a selfish illuminati kool aid drinking sheeple, not sure if that covered all the name calling or not and don't really care.
I'm not locking this one up hopefully one of you guys let's your mouth outrun your ass and Carlos hammers somebody
My point was that the Mederma and Pfizer vaccines are produced with a new technology that is very different from what is used for the "flu" vaccine. That's not opinion - that is fact.
I will get the J&J vaccine when it's available.
That's what happens to these type of topics.
Let's just call it a day, closes this one and get on to shooting....
Quote from: Roaneman on March 10, 2021, 01:41:46 PMHow is half a million dead people out of proportion?
499,999 we lost an uncle to stage 4 cancer
Listed cause of death....
Covid
The link is to the CDC, who knows how accurate it is, it explains mRNA in more or less layman's terms.
It's a personal choice to get any of these vaccines. It's an easy one for me because of underlying health issues which dramatically increase the probability of serious complications should I contract rona. My cardiologist has helped me make it this far, I took her advice this time around and got the shot :)
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html#:~:text=mRNA%20Vaccines%20Are%20New%2C%20But%20Not%20Unknown&text=This%20means%20the%20process%20can,%2C%20and%20cytomegalovirus%20(CMV).
The new primary care doctor was assigned to me as I left the hospital. She set the vaccine up for me yesterday becaise@i asked her the day we@met. Think I will keep her@
Get my second Moderna punch Saturday, 13 March. Hoping they are no negative side effects.
No side effects so far.....cabin feverr is one
I had the zJaansen shot (Johnson & Johnson.
I just had some side effects............... I thought I had a line on more axes to restore, but when I went to see them, the dude won't give up the good ones lol. I did get a nice chunk of Walnut from him though so side effects are subsided somewhat.
Quote from: Roaneman on March 10, 2021, 01:07:56 PMChoosing not to take established precautions and take a vaccine when available would, ideally, be a personal choice. Unfortunately it's not. By going against the science you will put yourself, your family, friends coworkers or anyone you cross paths with at risk of contracting this thing.
As a biology student in grad school in college, I had the opportunity to work and study in the lab of one the worlds leading virologists when HIV hadn't even been named HIV yet. He was working in concert with Immunologists to understand the virus and develop a vaccine. Scientists were in the processes of mapping the human genome (our DNA) at this time in history also. We were some of the first to use electrophoresis to view a DNA fingerprint. It was a great time to be a biology student.
I had my 2nd Moderna shot 2 weeks ago tomorrow, so I should be at a higher level of immunity. My mother, who has lymphoma, took the vaccine with me. With my background, i had no concerns or fears in taking an M-RNA vaccine. I know it does not "become part of my DNA". None of my 3 children or their wives have taken the vaccine. They are all at the age to start having their own children.
I am not going to try to convince them to take the vaccine. While most of my friends have or will be taking the vaccine, I dont argue or get mad at the few who are not going to take it. I feel it is their individual choice.
But my children and the friends/other relatives who have not taken the vaccine are SMART ENOUGH to wear a mask, wash their hands, social distance and do not get around large crowds or any one who may have been exposed. It is VERY SELFISH to break these very simple practices to help control the spread. Over 530,000 have died of complications from covid. It doesn't matter if they have cancer or a heart problems or bad diabetes...the virus cuts their lives even shorter.
Not wearing a seat belt increases YOUR chance of dieing in a car wreck. Not wearing a mask and following the other practices effects EVERYONE your come in contact with.
The first paragraph from the previous post was quote. The remaining paragraphs were my post. Dont know How i messed that up.
Quote from: Gone Fishin on March 11, 2021, 09:00:39 PMThe first paragraph from the previous post was quote. The remaining paragraphs were my post. Dont know How i messed that up.
FYI, you can always click Quick Edit to fix a mistyped post, sadly I know this because I use it all the time, lol.
The trick with using quotes is to start your post outside the last HTML quote in square braces.
Thanks for the help. 1st time I had used a quote.
Something like 94% of those that have died have had 2+ comorbidities and the average age of death is around 80yrs. old. Remember Dr. Birx saying they were counting deaths with covid as deaths from covid. View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHp1GdOD4k
Also listen to what this Dr. says: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw9Ci2PZKZg
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWNkJUDctdk&feature=emb_logo
Also: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw5ldWr9QD0&feature=emb_logo
Also: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLaeD5s4iY6U1f0HSDQNULt-nCZXAxN-nI&v=g2aR2UInnug&feature=emb_logo
Quote from: Learning One on March 13, 2021, 09:34:22 AMSomething like 94% of those that have died have had 2+ comorbidities and the average age of death is around 80yrs. old. Remember Dr. Birx saying they were counting deaths with covid as deaths from covid. View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHp1GdOD4k
Also listen to what this Dr. says: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw9Ci2PZKZg
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWNkJUDctdk&feature=emb_logo
Also: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw5ldWr9QD0&feature=emb_logo
Also: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLaeD5s4iY6U1f0HSDQNULt-nCZXAxN-nI&v=g2aR2UInnug&feature=emb_logo
Oh my!!
Who would've thunk that the #'s were inflated to meet thier agenda?
When the schools are closed because of Covid and the border is open in spite of Covid - there is an agenda, a nefarious one.
Interesting article regarding the vaccine and the most informed people working the front lines. You would think there would be 100% acceptance among them.
https://m.theepochtimes.com/the-biggest-covid-19-vaccine-skeptics-frontline-health-care-workers_3724145.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&
[email protected]&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-03-13-2
When I was a kid I was given the miracle drug Penicillin for a respiratory condition that refused to self-resolve. God bless Alexander Fleming, but it darn near killed me, yet it has benefitted millions by now. You never know, life is full of risks.
Quote from: bikemutt on March 13, 2021, 03:35:19 PMWhen I was a kid I was given the miracle drug Penicillin for a respiratory condition that refused to self-resolve. God bless Alexander Fleming, but it darn near killed me, yet it has benefitted millions by now. You never know, life is full of risks.
And thus, the reason for risk/benefit analysis. Unfortunately that line of analysis only works correctly when you know all the facts. ????
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Unfortunately learning all the facts takes time, meanwhile, Rome is burning.
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You got a picture of my best side.
This year i got my first ever flu shot as well as the j& j shot. Never really had a sick day in my life till this winter. The heart event which they said preceded my stroke may have been a result of post election stress combined with late night Hannityt.lol
Just curious Randy - did you get the J&J Covid vaccine before your stroke or after your stroke?
Quote from: jvw2008 on April 30, 2021, 03:47:53 PMJust curious Randy - did you get the J&J Covid vaccine before your stroke or after your stroke?
after, i actually requested it while in the hospital as well as several fellow patients did.
One of my new doctors set it up for me after i requested it on my firsy visit with her. My wife just had her first moderna last weekmaybe we can have thanksgiving and Christmas this year as most of my family has had vaccine already, also.
I dont believe much of what I read online, but found this very interesting: https://nojabforme.info/ and NO, I will NOT be getting it... IMHO when and how GOD wants me to die, I will.....
Quote from: Ric on May 01, 2021, 06:47:23 PMI dont believe much of what I read online, but found this very interesting: https://nojabforme.info/ and NO, I will NOT be getting it... IMHO when and how GOD wants me to die, I will.....
Thanks for posting.
Here is what my lefthand looked like yesterday. The swelling has been aout the same since the vaccine shotin the same arm.not a pleasant adenture.
Damn Randy!
That looks very uncomfortable. I sure hope it improves for you very soon.
Whats your doctor say about that swelling randy..
Quote from: gman47564 on May 02, 2021, 09:35:46 AMWhats your doctor say about that swelling randy..
one doctor knew it was uncomfortable and cut off my wedding ring. One doctor prescribed a drug that is supposed to reduce swelling & inflamation. It seems to be working somewhat. Also ive been icing it in the mornings and giving it hot & cold water soaks to get rid of the excess lymphatic fluids. All the doctors say it is a normal aftetsymptom of some stroke victims. Yesterday i was the wheel barrow operator for my wifes garden work and tbe final dump gave my wrist a good twist and set off that round of swelling. I blamed it on the vaccine for a couple of weeks but found no corroborating evidence of that except that one article said it can accelerate or aggravate existing problems. Today my step daughter & twin grandsons are coming over to take me shed hunting. Hope that the woods walk doesnt aggravate it more than it is.
Randy if you will elevate that arm above the level of your heart when you are resting it will help with the lymph flow out of your arm and back into you blood stream.
Wow that looks uncomfortable, please take care and I hope you find some nice sheds.
Quote from: jvw2008 on May 02, 2021, 12:30:58 PMRandy if you will elevate that arm above the level of your heart when you are resting it will help with the lymph flow out of your arm and back into you blood stream.
foing thisas i read this. Long afyernoon in thewoods with the granfsons. Hot whirlpool first. Then a hot/cold hand/wrist therapy. Thinling about a cocktail coming soon.
Quote from: jvw2008 on May 02, 2021, 12:30:58 PMRandy if you will elevate that arm above the level of your heart when you are resting it will help with the lymph flow out of your arm and back into you blood stream.
foing thisas i read this. Long afyernoon in thewoods with the granfsons.no sheds found just a tirred old grandpa and lotd of wood ticks. We did 50000+ steps according to a step app mystep daugjter was running on her phone. Hazel brush tore up both of my arms a little was 86°F.Hot whirlpool first. Then a hot/cold hand/wrist therapy. Thinking about a cocktail coming soon.told my wife i should hang some rope from the beams over the sofa to aid in elevating my armOmce we got back to the car, had to laugh at the twins picking ticks of each otjer just like chimps on a Jane Woodall film.
50000 steps is roughly 23-24 miles. Hell of a hike. Hopefully the swelling subsides sooner than later.
Quote from: Philbie on May 02, 2021, 11:44:27 PM50000 steps is roughly 23-24 miles. Hell of a hike. Hopefully the swelling subsides sooner than later.
Here's a tip for logging those steps; strap the watch to the dog, send him after squirrels for an hour or so, brings a smile to even the most jaded cardiologist :)
."told my wife i should hang some rope from the beams over the sofa to aid in elevating my arm"
Don't hang yourself Randy! ????
Just get your elbow and wrist above your heart. Two or three inches above is enough if you will keep it there for an hour or so.
The way my luck has gone lately, i figured someone would guess or think that the rope idea could end in a small disastet!
Not to be negative or anything but when dad went to adsisted living aftetone of his strokes his depression had him doubting his self worth. He wantef to movr back home but never made it. We hid all his guns before and if he was ever able.
Quote from: mnbogboy on May 03, 2021, 03:12:36 PMThe way my luck has gone lately, i figured someone would guess or think that the rope idea could end in a small disastet!
speaking of ropes getting wraped around things you dont want them wraped around... last week i was in my building sitting on a tall stool blowing water out of cases i had cleaned with my air hose... when i finished i got down off the stool and didnt know it but that air hose got wrapped around one of my feet... i went to take a step and down i went... seemed like i fell for five minutes trying to miss things on the way down... lol... finally hit the floor on my side... i thought to myself you dumbass... thats a good way to end up in the hospital with broken bones... but i got back up and seemed to be ok... could have ended up bad... so much for being graceful in my old age...lol
Getting drug in the dirt by a bee-stung horse is no fun, ask me how I know. That's when I started wearing boots that slip right out of the stirrups when things don't as planned. Up until then, I figured I knew better than the horsemen who took the time to try and save me from myself. I'm still amazed I made it to retirement.