Ridgway Pa. VBR

[Fuj]

As I'm gathering nuts like a squirrel and transitioning to the
long game, I'm also looking at stats. I always liked doing the
numbers.  One set of numbers from this past year's VBR
competition had me doing more of my head scratchin' !!
I started to notice that 12 lb light gun was doing a bit better
then 17 lb heavy gun !!  Now Ridgway has never been cleaned
in the 10 years it was started. You have 40 record shots at
life size steel varmints. 10 crows at 850 yds, 10 woodchucks at
900 yds, 10 bob cats at 950 yards,  and 10 coyotes at 1000 yds.
You shoot a bank of 5 targets at a time with a 3 minute time
limit.....Now for those numbers. For 2019 the average of the
5 top 12 lb shooters was 78 %  where the average for the 17 lb
shooters was 75 %   6mm in most flavors still seem, to dominate,
but as I'm talking to competitors more numbers are showing up.
Most heavy guns shoot lighter calibers like the 6mm's and light
gun leans to the heavier pills like the 6.5's and even a few hold
overs in 308.....I got more digging to do.   Either way, I have the
winter to re-address FrankenCreed to get to 12 lbs.

Here's the current rules PDF from Ridgway.

[gman47564]

Sounds like a fun shoot fuj.. i would build the 12 pounder and shoot in both classes with it.. probably flavored in the 6.5x284.. shoot the heavy pills to offset the conditions best i could with a little more oomph to it.. if they had something like that close to me i would be at everyone of them. ?

[jvw2008]

Looks like fun Fuj. I'm guessing the shooters in light gun are using modified standard hunting rifles which lean towards a larger caliber. The heavy gun class is actually what's considered the light gun restriction in 600/1000 yd BR. Your heavy gun shooters are likely out of the traditional BR shooters with their BR light guns which trend to the smaller 6mm cartridges. Distance versus silhouette size would be a definite challenge.  Are the five record shoots rotating through the five different silhouettes or are they all on the same silhouette 5 at a time?

[Fuj]

Looks like fun Fuj. I'm guessing the shooters in light gun are using modified standard hunting rifles which lean towards a larger caliber. The heavy gun class is actually what's considered the light gun restriction in 600/1000 yd BR. Your heavy gun shooters are likely out of the traditional BR shooters with their BR light guns which trend to the smaller 6mm cartridges. Distance versus silhouette size would be a definite challenge.  Are the five record shoots rotating through the five different silhouettes or are they all on the same silhouette 5 at a time?

You won't find much of a traditional hunting rifle. Most 12 pounders
use an aluminum action with heavy barrel that's fluted to the max.
A light Night Force is the scope of choice. As for the stock ?? Just
about everything under the sun that's been worked over because,
that's the very last of the weight puzzle.....The 5 shots are on the
same bank. Now you might not be assigned to shoot the crows first.
All four distances are being fired on at each relay, in each group of 4
shooters.  Once the time is up. A cease fire is called, and pull your
bolts. Once the line is safe, target setters go to work.

Grant.....The 284 Winchester has become popular because of Ridgway's
nasty wind conditions.  As I mentioned in older postings;  Your shooting
across a valley, and no real way to read wind. Your 100 feet above the
impact zone, then add in your ballistic arc. Very convoluted.....There is
also a little joke about the .284.   A 6br could not make weight, so the
fellow re-chambered to the .284 and made weight !!

[walkinhorseman]

Fuj, I read the rules but have a couple of  questions. What is the minimum bullet weight required to topple the coyotes at 1000 yards? Will the 105/107 6mm do the job reliably?

Also, can a chamber flag be used in lieu of pulling the bolt? I have an Eliseo tube gun and might be able to shoot it in the heavy class with some changes. 

[Fuj]

Fuj, I read the rules but have a couple of  questions. What is the minimum bullet weight required to topple the coyotes at 1000 yards? Will the 105/107 6mm do the job reliably?

Also, can a chamber flag be used in lieu of pulling the bolt? I have an Eliseo tube gun and might be able to shoot it in the heavy class with some changes. 

Our Junior rifle team a few years back were shooting the 6br and
lost some score for negative knock overs. Average's went up when
we rebarreled the two rifles to 6.5 Creedmoor.  The 6 Dashers were
probably talking the highest toll. The 6mm's will knock them over but,
you need to carry some speed to overcome the winds that haunt
the place.....As for your tube gun ??  I know they are extreme about
pulling bolts, since workers will be down range resetting the steel.

Try contacting the administrators at  ridgwayrifleclub.com  about your
rifle type.

[walkinhorseman]

Thanks Fuj.