The Creedmoor Forum

 So. I'm getting a hankering for another carbine. But this one needs to have some Thump to it.
 I want a 338 - 375 cal bullet , at least 225 gr going at least 2650 fps. From a 16.5 " barrel.
 Built on a stainless Ruger M77 Mk2 or Hawkeye action.

Friend that just happened to be going by just as I got my knife out to start working it up.

 Finally after a couple years of nuthin.

 So, I spent almost all day disassembling ammo I loaded in 06 +07 . It was great in the rifle I developed them in but that rifle is long gone.
 Now I have a new to me rifle in the same cartridge . But just didn't think it wise to start torching off ammo that tho was loaded to book powder charges. Those charges were max book.
 First thing I needed was a good reliable bear load as spring has come a month or more early. And the punks in fur coats are probably getting ready to be out and about.
 So, I pound about 100 bullets out of their homes. No small task considering I used a Lee Factory Crimp die to keep them from moving. Dump the powder, decap , anneal , trim and champfer . Then I primed a dozen as I was running short on time.
 Settle on a mid book load as my temporary stopping point having already done a bit of loading starting at starting charge weights last week.
 Load the dozen , go out on the back deck and torch a couple off to check for any problems.
 Everything looks very good.  So, I should be set.
 But there is this nagging bug in my head that wants to know how fast my bullets are going. Well, the book says X is the starting velocity . And Y is the velocity at max charge weight/pressure. I'm right in the middle so Z should be the velocity of these loads.
 Yup, that's what it should be. The bullets are going fast enough to do the job at hand if needed.
 But it bugs me to no end not knowing pretty much exactly how fast my bullets are going.
 If I had the time I could set up the chronograph and find out. But no time. Or daylight. So now I have to wait 18 hours or so to stop this from bugging me. 
  Anyone else suffer from chronograph data itis ?

 Really been wanting one of these for like 20 years. Finally found a slightly used one for a good price. Like Only 1 box of ammo. 
 I really like all the station holes . It indexes nice and tight. I lightly lubed it with Amsoil full synthetic 2 cycle oil . Really good stuff.
 I just got it mounted on the bench. Gotta get everything adjusted then start cranking out ammo.

 Are there any styles or designs that tend to be more robust or reliable regardless of price. Or are they all dollar dependent .
 This will go on an AR with mil spec front sight so I will need a riser mount . Like those I listed.
There are almost Too many options !
 This is the style I'm thinking about.
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Optics-TRS-25-Hirise-Riflescope/dp/B00ABP8YCA/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1546570244&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=bushnell+red+dot+sight&dpPl=1&dpID=41wdi3vQufL&ref=plSrch
Or this.
https://www.primaryarms.com/holosun-paralow-solar-power-red-dot-sight-hs403c-hs403c?trk_msg=IU45KP50BAO41E3E97SRG5Q44S&trk_contact=JRB5MEPQ22LG1UO2DFD7R8MSM4&trk_module=bna&trk_sid=0PNF7AP8LBK4DONDCVF3B4J0S8&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Check+It+Out&utm_campaign=Browse-Abandonment&utm_content=Browse-Abandonment-Message-1
 Thanks in advance.
 Glen.

I'm thinking about getting a complete upper minus bcg and charging handle . And get a bcg ect.
 My question is, what does it take to headspace the bolt correctly ?
 Thanks in advance .
 Glen.

 Has anyone used these for hunting ?
 If so , how did the bullets do?
 What vel, range, penetration , wound channel ?? Ect.
 Thanks in advance.
 Glen.

So; I haven't bought it yet. But this scope is on the top of my short list. https://www.opticsplanet.com/nightforce-nx8-1-8x24-30mm-f1-zerostop-riflescope.html?_iv_code=?_iv_code=NFNF-RS-FZRS-C598


One of my biggest requirements is for the scope to have a short eyepiece. And long enough eye relief so I can have a 13" lop on my 458 and not get ringed. This scope has 3.75" eye relief . which is a q/4" less than I prefer. But it looks short enough in the eyepiece . That the very back end of the scope shouldn't protrude much past the rear of the striker. Which is the gold standard for a rifle with a fair amount of recoil.
 One reviewer was negatively commenting on the diameter of the center dot. Myself, I like that size. A bit over 1 moa. So as its a ffp it will cover 6.5 moa at 500 yards.
 I would get the mil/mil version tho.
 In some ways the Vortex Razor 2, 1-6 ×24 is better. Full 4" of eye relief. But the eye piece is a bit longer than I want. And, it weighs 10 oz more than the NX8.
 I emailed NightForce requesting information on this scope . Asking if it is as tough as some of their NXS scopes. Will see what they say.
 

 This coming Friday I should be bringing home my new rifle. A 338 Winchester.
 It doesn't come with bases and rings.
 Beings the action is something of a Model 70 clone I'm wondering if it takes Model 70 bases ?
 If anyone has a Kimber I would really appreciate any info.
 Thanks !
 Glen.
P.S.  I going to mount my 10x42 SWFA SS mil dot on it to check its accuracy and play a bit.
 Not sure what scope will be my final choice. But I'm leaning towards a mid their 3-15 ffp. Probably be a couple different ones along the way.

http://www.theakforum.net/forums/14-general-discussion/67031-extreme-cold-weather-rifle-testing-alaska-s-p-pdf-link.html#/topics/67031?page=1

 Anyone using these ? Or developed a load with them . I picked up a box of 100 in Tok today and want to see if they are tough enough to be a stand alone expanding bullet in my Creed. My primary fur bullet is the 144 gr Lapua FMJBT . I'm hoping that to 400 yards they have similar drop and drift. I know they won't be zactly the same. But if I don't have to do any turret fiddling. Out to 400. That would sure simplify things . this week I'm going to HBN them all up . I'll probably get a box of North Fork 140 gr for a moose bullet , close range .
 Anyway, I've got plenty of H4350 and Rl17. . It would be AWESOME if my rifle shot them as well as it does the Berger 140 Hunting VLD. .
 Might even aneal some brass and stuff.
 Thanks .
 Glen.

 .476" diameter, .396" meplat . .838" bullet length . 381.3 grain weight.
 Should be able to push it over 1300 fps from my revolver.

https://www.gricegunshop.com/rug6835-ruger-gunsite-scout-camo-brown-digital-6-5creedmoor-matte.html



 Y'all NEED one , or two of these. !!!
 
 The reason it is almost perfect. Its cromo instead of stainless.

So this bison hunt taught me that I need,  or at least can somewhat justify an optic that I can hopefully very clearly see an animal at a mile or more .
 The scope I'm interested in is the IOR Valdada  4-28×50, 40 mm tube Recon .
 That rifle scope is about the same price as a Swarovski spotter. And I would get far more pleasure from a rifle scope than a spotting scope.

 So . its BLOWING here. Really howling. Gusts to 40 mph or more.
 My friend is shooting .338 , 225 gr TSX BT factory ammo that I think is going the standard 2780 fps.
 Can anyone give me the wind drift at 100 + 200 yards at 10, 20, + 30 mph with this load. I tried JBM but I don't have a good enough data connection
 Thank you in advance
   Glen

So, Tomorrow morning is our first day of hunting bison in the Delta Junction area. . As I have data here I will update this thread daily .
 For those that don't know. This is not my permit . One of my oldest friends . He was drawn for a bull tag. . 100 tags are drawn annually . Approximately 18,000 permit applicationsare sent in and only 100 drawn.
 He lives in Southeast Alaska which is SOOOO different from here. He is shooting a Stainless Ruger M77 Mk ll in 338 Win mag . 225 gr TSX BT factory ammo. .

 New long range record for my Creed. 372  yards. New long range record for me standing with a willow stick rest.
 Cow caribou approximately 275 lbs walking straight away.
 130 gr TSX HBN tumbled
 43.5 gr Rl 17.  CCI 200.  Hornady brass.      . M.V. 2775
 18.6" Ruger Stainless Hawkeye
 1-4×24, 30mm tube SWFA SS Classic scope on 4power.
 It was easy in some ways and not so easy in others. The sun was nearly just above her. Walking straight away from me. Held on the base of her tail with the first mil line.
 Bullet entered at the bottom of the anus . Smashed the pelvis stoppedjust shy of the diaphragm.  Pistol shot to the brain put her to sleep.
 So, we have freezer meat. .

So, as some may know , I've been playing around with a 375 Whelan Improved,  19 1/2" barreled 98 Mauser.  So far I have a 250gr TTSX HBN tumbled pushed by Varget,  55.5 gr going 2522 fps.  I am not at max so will keep going up in powder charge 1/2 gr at a time. I haven't checked the accuracy of the load yet. As I always load for velocity and like as much velocity as I can get as long as safety, accuracy and longevity are there . The rifle barely weighs 7lbs and has a 30year old 1/2" recoil pad on it and ghost ring peep sight rear and sourdough post front sight . I'm hoping to get good consistent 2600 +fps from it .

 Ok, so I know it's not a common scope to put on a 6.4 Creedmoor. .
 However, not all Creedmoor owners are long range shooters. And , not all 6.5 Creedmoor rifles are set up for target or long range shooting. . It is my hope to see the 6.5 Creedmoor replace the average 243, 7/08, 308 rifles in the deer and hog woods and fields. Might not happen, but it sure would be nice. !!
 Anyway . I mounted this scope in Warne Maxima high rings on my 9.3x64 Brenneke custom Mark X Mauser rifle. . Went to the range yesterday and sighted it in. .
 For the $250 that it sells for . I am very impressed.
 Big fov . Relatively constant eye relief. 1/2moa click Kaiser that are audible and tactile. Zeroable undercover knobs that are easy to grasp. The reticle has just enough stuff in it to be totally useful for our to 300yard hunting. The V Bright illuminated center dot is visible in any setting where illumination is needed. The center bead is fast and as it stands alone allows for 2 holdover points for longer range shooting. I did not have the time or pain management to do ALOT of playing around at 100 + further ranges. I just wanted to get it sighted in . In case I need to shoot a bear from my deck.
 For anyone that does not want exposed turrets on their deer rifle, hog rifle. This scope is Very good . !  Glass and coatings are superb for its price range. Reticle adjusted quickly and very crisp. And the reticle ring isn't easily bumped out of focus.

 The only thing I wish it had that it does not . Is an off position between graduations of intensity on the illuminated reticle knob.
 
 All in all a very good scope for the money.